Accelerator connecting piece "rubber" broke

[Dennis Terenzio]

Today my wife and I hired a babysitter and decided to take a drive in our '62 T6B. On our way back the gas pedal snapped to the floor and the car started to idol. Hanging under the car was a a short connecting rod just in front of the engine along with half of a rubber connecting piece. Has anyone else seen these?



After looking it up in my parts manual and at Stoddard it looks like 911-423-081-02. The manual shows a tiny peice but the part coming off of the car is about the size of a large stopper too large to fit into a wine bottle. The picture NLA has of this same part looks like it is now metal. I assume with a 911 P/N it's been replaced. Does anyone have any experience with this part? Once I get the new part are there any tips to adjusting the linkage before our 300+ mile trip to Sun Valley in a few weeks? Does the new part have rubber inside? I'm guessing my rubber part was original and it's allowed to go out after 46 years. Although it did cost the insurance company a flatbed tow and we had to ride home in a Kenworth.

[Ron LaDow]

Dennis,

"Today my wife and I hired a babysitter and decided to take a drive
in our '62 T6B. On our way back the gas pedal snapped to the floor
and the car started to idol. Hanging under the car was a a short
connecting rod just in front of the engine along with half of a
rubber connecting piece. Has anyone else seen these?"

I can't see the image in email, but it sounds like you might have set a record for an original part longevity. Along about the early '70s, that rubber 'connector' got a metal can formed around it so when it lets go (not 'whether it lets go'), you don't lose all throttle control. Supposedly, they are the same dimension as the un-canned part, but it's worth checking the adjustment. Look in the tech section of the Registry site; I think Ab Tiedemann did a write-up on it.
There are other fixes; wrapping the two parts back together in a baling wire 'basket' got me home once, and (memory fails) someone else came up with a *really* clever fix.
Thanks,
Ron LaDow

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[Ken Daugherty]

It is a common failure. Replace with the upgraded metal one and
the problem is solved.
To others, I suggest looking at the coupler on your car and if
it has the original, go ahead and replace it now. It's a problem waiting
to happen. While checking 'things' also look at your steering coupler
and the rubber hose under the front floor board.

Ken Daugherty
kend356@insightbb.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Terenzio [mailto:terenzio@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:10 PM
To: 356talk@356registry.com
Subject: [356Talk] Accelerator connecting piece "rubber" broke


Today my wife and I hired a babysitter and decided to take a drive in
our '62 T6B. On our way back the gas pedal snapped to the floor and the
car started to idol. Hanging under the car was a a short connecting rod
just in front of the engine along with half of a rubber connecting
piece. Has anyone else seen these?

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After looking it up in my parts manual and at Stoddard it looks like
911-423-081-02. The manual shows a tiny peice but the part coming off of
the car is about the size of a large stopper too large to fit into a
wine bottle. The picture NLA has of this same part looks like it is now
metal. I assume with a 911 P/N it's been replaced. Does anyone have any
experience with this part? Once I get the new part are there any tips to
adjusting the linkage before our 300+ mile trip to Sun Valley in a few
weeks? Does the new part have rubber inside? I'm guessing my rubber part
was original and it's allowed to go out after 46 years. Although it did
cost the insurance company a flatbed tow and we had to ride home in a
Kenworth.

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~dennis
1962 T6 Super Coupe
1964 SC Sunroof Coupe




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[Jeffrey Fellman]

Ken, I see you are hell bent on taking the "excitement" out of driving these
cars!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Daugherty" <kend356@insightbb.com>
To: <356talk@356registry.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: [356Talk] Accelerator connecting piece "rubber" broke

It is a common failure. Replace with the upgraded metal one and
the problem is solved.
To others, I suggest looking at the coupler on your car and if
it has the original, go ahead and replace it now. It's a problem waiting
to happen. While checking 'things' also look at your steering coupler
and the rubber hose under the front floor board.

Ken Daugherty
kend356@insightbb.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Terenzio [mailto:terenzio@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:10 PM
To: 356talk@356registry.com
Subject: [356Talk] Accelerator connecting piece "rubber" broke


Today my wife and I hired a babysitter and decided to take a drive in
our '62 T6B. On our way back the gas pedal snapped to the floor and the
car started to idol. Hanging under the car was a a short connecting rod
just in front of the engine along with half of a rubber connecting
piece. Has anyone else seen these?

<a><img></a>

After looking it up in my parts manual and at Stoddard it looks like
911-423-081-02. The manual shows a tiny peice but the part coming off of
the car is about the size of a large stopper too large to fit into a
wine bottle. The picture NLA has of this same part looks like it is now
metal. I assume with a 911 P/N it's been replaced. Does anyone have any
experience with this part? Once I get the new part are there any tips to
adjusting the linkage before our 300+ mile trip to Sun Valley in a few
weeks? Does the new part have rubber inside? I'm guessing my rubber part
was original and it's allowed to go out after 46 years. Although it did
cost the insurance company a flatbed tow and we had to ride home in a
Kenworth.

------------------------
~dennis
1962 T6 Super Coupe
1964 SC Sunroof Coupe





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Ken Daugherty

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[Dennis Terenzio]

It is a common failure. Replace with the upgraded metal one and
the problem is solved.
To others, I suggest looking at the coupler on your car and if
it has the original, go ahead and replace it now. It's a problem waiting
to happen. While checking 'things' also look at your steering coupler
and the rubber hose under the front floor board.

Ken Daugherty
kend356@insightbb.com

Thanks for the replies. I'll order one Monday. Bailing wire was the next item to go in my tool kit... I'm also going to take a look at the steering coupler as per your suggestion but what rubber hose are you talking about under the dash? The floorboards sure are hard to get out. Is there an easier way to do this than prying the foot pedal down so the bottom of the board can pass above the pedal?

Thanks

[Tom Farnam]

Dennis (and others) there is a short section of flexible fuel line connecting the metal line which comes through the front firewall with the long metal line going through the tunnel. It is is a common place for leakage, as it's hard to reach and therefore not serviced often.

It (and all other sections of flexible fuel line) should be replaced if you do not KNOW they have been replaced recently.

Tom

[David Jones]

With reference to changing the piece of fuel line behind the footboard. You will find it easier to change if you remove both footboards though it is also possible if you are very deft to do it with only the passenger side removed. Also remove the throttle pedal before removing the drivers side board which make the job much easier.

[John Helgesen]

Having just replaced this section of fuel line myself, I can say find someone with tiny hands to help, its tight in there.

[Dennis Terenzio]

Thank you so much for all of the help with the other items I should replace as well. It's nice having a lightly used 356 but there are quite a few parts that now probably need some attention.

Best regards,

Dennis

[Michael Eker]

Rubber car parts have a finite life.

Tyres which are subject to UV light are the first to go, after as little as 6 years if they have

regularly standing in bright sunlight.

Brake hoses and seals, fuel pipes, rubber steering couplers, suspension bushes, all harden

perish and crack with age.

This not a problem with most modern cars as some of them don't last much more than 10

years anyway. For 40 year old Porsches it is.

If you haven't replaced your steering coupler or brake hoses within the last 10 years there

is a life expectancy calculator at http://calculator.livingto100.com/calculator

There should be a question "do you drive a car with a perished steering coupler"

meker

[Mark Pribanic]

Having just replaced this section of fuel line myself, I can say find someone with tiny hands to help, its tight in there.

John,
Thank you for the picture. I have recently replace my floor pans & did not notice this on my T2 coupe. I will now go find this piece of rubber fuel line and replace. As far as the accelerator piece breaking I will check that too.