Pre-A Interior colour combinations
- Steve Rees
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Pre-A Interior colour combinations
I'm trying to decide on an interior colour combination for upholstry/carpets/dash colour for my '53 coupe.
I have no Kardex info on this, but the exterior will be the correct Fish Silver Grey and I am leaning towards vinyl rather than corduroy or leather.
I was thinking of blue seats & panels, grey carpet, blue dash but I have an open mind, so I'd be really grateful if you would please post up pictures of your suggestions !!
Not sure if this has been covered before (probably!) so apologies if I'm covering old ground!
Your help is appreciated !!
Cheers,
Steve
I have no Kardex info on this, but the exterior will be the correct Fish Silver Grey and I am leaning towards vinyl rather than corduroy or leather.
I was thinking of blue seats & panels, grey carpet, blue dash but I have an open mind, so I'd be really grateful if you would please post up pictures of your suggestions !!
Not sure if this has been covered before (probably!) so apologies if I'm covering old ground!
Your help is appreciated !!
Cheers,
Steve
Steve Rees
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
356Registry #12956
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Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
356Registry #12956
PCGB #7484
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'53 coupe interior colors
According to Brett Johnson's "A Restorer's Guide to Authenticity", Fish Silver Grey is a '50-'52 color. The interior options were varied. For '53, a Fashion Grey was offered with grey textured vinyl speckled with grey dots or grey corduroy. Hopefully someone with a silver Pre-A coupe can share pics and color options with you to see what you like best.
Mike Wilson
Lomita, CA
'63 B coupe
Mike Wilson
Lomita, CA
'63 B coupe
- Steve Rees
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My car was most probably built in '52 as it left the factory in Jan '53.
I managed to get a photocopy of the factory Kardex from Germany but the only information it provides is the paint colour, the engine number, and the selling dealer & date.
Your photos of interior colour combinations would be much appreciated !
Thanks in advance,
Steve
I managed to get a photocopy of the factory Kardex from Germany but the only information it provides is the paint colour, the engine number, and the selling dealer & date.
Your photos of interior colour combinations would be much appreciated !
Thanks in advance,
Steve
Steve Rees
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
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Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
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Unfortunately there are no pics of the color options for the interior, Hopefully somone on the List with a '52 can post them for you to see.
Mike Wilson
Lomita, CA
'63 B coupe
Mike Wilson
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'63 B coupe
- FREDRICH GLOCKLER
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Steve,
Here's one in Fish Silver Grey fully restored. One possible combination. Since you don't know and the factory info is incomplete, their are many possibilities for your car as many were offered. Cloth, vinyl, leather in various mixes and colors including plaids were available.
Good luck in your quest. Lets see photos when done.
http://www.mjemotorsports.com/index.php ... icle&id=64
Regards,
Here's one in Fish Silver Grey fully restored. One possible combination. Since you don't know and the factory info is incomplete, their are many possibilities for your car as many were offered. Cloth, vinyl, leather in various mixes and colors including plaids were available.
Good luck in your quest. Lets see photos when done.
http://www.mjemotorsports.com/index.php ... icle&id=64
Regards,
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fish-silver-grey (R 505) has been one of 9 colours (series) in 1953.
as far as I know:
There were 3 options for the seats (seat cover) & door panels:
1) cloth
or
2) cloth in combination with synthetic leather
or
3) synthetic leather
4 possible colours seat cover (cloth):
- blue (3326 f)
- grey (3361 e)
- beige (3362 e)
- green (3287 e)
6 possible colours seat cover (synthetic leather):
- blue (309 c)
- red (356)
- green (357)
- light beige (366b)
- beige (376)
- grey (377)
3 possible cloth-colours for interieur panels / parts:
- green (3288)
- grey (3364)
- beige (3365)
and finally 3 possible colours for the carpets:
- blue (678)
- green (680)
- beige (695)
hope this will help to make your decision.
Frank
as far as I know:
There were 3 options for the seats (seat cover) & door panels:
1) cloth
or
2) cloth in combination with synthetic leather
or
3) synthetic leather
4 possible colours seat cover (cloth):
- blue (3326 f)
- grey (3361 e)
- beige (3362 e)
- green (3287 e)
6 possible colours seat cover (synthetic leather):
- blue (309 c)
- red (356)
- green (357)
- light beige (366b)
- beige (376)
- grey (377)
3 possible cloth-colours for interieur panels / parts:
- green (3288)
- grey (3364)
- beige (3365)
and finally 3 possible colours for the carpets:
- blue (678)
- green (680)
- beige (695)
hope this will help to make your decision.
Frank
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Steve, my interior is a dark blue leather with beige carpet with blue piping.
a nice combination,
michaelb
a nice combination,
michaelb
- Steve Rees
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Thanks to Mike, Fredrich, Frank and Michael for your input ..... all food for thought.
The sample of blue vinyl from Autos Intl looks very dark, almost black in the car, so I'm still looking for alternative inspiration please!
There are lots of photos of exteriors of Pre-A's but not that many of the interiors ..... to aid my research, any more links to photos of interiors would be appreciated!
Cheers!
The sample of blue vinyl from Autos Intl looks very dark, almost black in the car, so I'm still looking for alternative inspiration please!
There are lots of photos of exteriors of Pre-A's but not that many of the interiors ..... to aid my research, any more links to photos of interiors would be appreciated!
Cheers!
Steve Rees
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
356Registry #12956
PCGB #7484
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
356Registry #12956
PCGB #7484
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Pre - A Interiors
I have the factory build sheet for my 1952 Coupe (11441). It lists "Leather" as the interior in the color Red. The VIN # and the color were written on the back of the dash with white chalk. Also "Red" in German.
...............................Jim.
...............................Jim.
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Hi Jim & Jim .....
Thanks for your photos .....
Jim L,
I didn't think coupes came with leather so yours must have been a special factory order .... lucky you ! .... at least you know the original spec so the decision was easy when it came time to re-trim
Jim K,
Those seats look fairly blue on my screen; what do they look like in reality? ..... were they an Autos Intl colour vinyl or another supplier?
All the best,
Steve
Thanks for your photos .....
Jim L,
I didn't think coupes came with leather so yours must have been a special factory order .... lucky you ! .... at least you know the original spec so the decision was easy when it came time to re-trim
Jim K,
Those seats look fairly blue on my screen; what do they look like in reality? ..... were they an Autos Intl colour vinyl or another supplier?
All the best,
Steve
Steve Rees
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
356Registry #12956
PCGB #7484
Oxford, England
1953 Coupe
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PCGB #7484
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Re: Pre-A Interior colour combinations
Revisiting an old thread here.
Steve, perhaps you've already painted and upholstered your car, but I thought I'd add a bit of info here.
My '53 "USA de Luxe" 1500S coupe (completed July, 1953 per the COA) is Fish silver grey too!
Its original interior is grey cord and grey leather upholstery, grey fuzzy twill headliner and dark blue carpet with cloth binding. I have the original interior, but it is in lousy shape. The COA confirms all this - it says R505/Fish silver grey with Grey Leather/CS interior. "CS" was a code at Reutter that seemed to indicate there was a mix of cloth and vinyl or cloth and leather.
So just to add to Frank Jung's excellent information above, it was possible, and very likely standard, that 1953 USA-delivery coupes delivered with 1500S motors had corduroy and leather interiors. Not a lot of leather - just the seat sides and backs, and the side of the back fold-down seat. All the rest is cord, including door panels rear cushion and A-pillar coverings. Both the cord and leather are a warm grey color.
Steve, perhaps you've already painted and upholstered your car, but I thought I'd add a bit of info here.
My '53 "USA de Luxe" 1500S coupe (completed July, 1953 per the COA) is Fish silver grey too!
Its original interior is grey cord and grey leather upholstery, grey fuzzy twill headliner and dark blue carpet with cloth binding. I have the original interior, but it is in lousy shape. The COA confirms all this - it says R505/Fish silver grey with Grey Leather/CS interior. "CS" was a code at Reutter that seemed to indicate there was a mix of cloth and vinyl or cloth and leather.
So just to add to Frank Jung's excellent information above, it was possible, and very likely standard, that 1953 USA-delivery coupes delivered with 1500S motors had corduroy and leather interiors. Not a lot of leather - just the seat sides and backs, and the side of the back fold-down seat. All the rest is cord, including door panels rear cushion and A-pillar coverings. Both the cord and leather are a warm grey color.
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