What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
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Re: Oil Recommendation for 356C
Shell Rotella Triple T 15W/40. Has 1200 ppm ZDDP and has what I think is the perfect viscosity range. I used to use Mobil ! synthetic but that was back when I was racing and used it in the race car as well. Now I only drive street 356's and not as much WOT so I think the Rotella is more than adequate. Takes about 1500 miles for it to go from honey colored to brown.
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Re: Oil Recommendation for 356C
For Mobil 1 15W-50 Mobil quotes:
• Nominal Phosphorus Level, PPM = 1,200
• Nominal Zinc Level, PPM = 1,300
At https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pv ... e-2016.pdf updated February 2016.
Personally, I'm a bit more concerned about the oil breaking down at high temperatures and killing my matching-numbers engine (which sometimes runs hot) than I am about ensuring my $ 40 valve lifters will last 200 years at 3,000 miles per year (or less).
• Nominal Phosphorus Level, PPM = 1,200
• Nominal Zinc Level, PPM = 1,300
At https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pv ... e-2016.pdf updated February 2016.
Personally, I'm a bit more concerned about the oil breaking down at high temperatures and killing my matching-numbers engine (which sometimes runs hot) than I am about ensuring my $ 40 valve lifters will last 200 years at 3,000 miles per year (or less).
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Re: Oil Recommendation for 356C
O'Reillys or any FLAPS brand oil, it's the name brand stuff without the fancy packaging and a lower price. I use 30 wt but I live in So Cal. I put 25,000 miles on an unknown engine and tore it down to the case recently to do the top end and the cam is fine.
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Oil for 356C
I was finally able to locate some engine oil locally for my 356C. I am now
using Valvoline VR1 20W-50 Racing Oil. Auto Zone has it and also Advance Auto Parts. Label on container says "High Zinc". The Product Information sheet indicates that the Zinc/Phosphorus content is 0.14/0.13. How does this translate into parts per million?
using Valvoline VR1 20W-50 Racing Oil. Auto Zone has it and also Advance Auto Parts. Label on container says "High Zinc". The Product Information sheet indicates that the Zinc/Phosphorus content is 0.14/0.13. How does this translate into parts per million?
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Re: Oil for 356C
David,
Thanks for the info. on the PPM of the Valvoline VR1 Racing 20W-50 Racing Oil. Looks like it will be good oil for my engine. I do not intend to do any racing. Got my car up to 105 MPH in 1965 on the Sunshine Parkway in Fla. at 3:00am. Manual said it could do 110. Gust of wind hit me and I could not feel the steering wheel. Must have been airborne. I keep it under 70mph today. Wyatt B.
Thanks for the info. on the PPM of the Valvoline VR1 Racing 20W-50 Racing Oil. Looks like it will be good oil for my engine. I do not intend to do any racing. Got my car up to 105 MPH in 1965 on the Sunshine Parkway in Fla. at 3:00am. Manual said it could do 110. Gust of wind hit me and I could not feel the steering wheel. Must have been airborne. I keep it under 70mph today. Wyatt B.
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Re: Oil for 356C
Not too highjack the thread, but I just now picked up a 5 gallon jug of the stuff (used to run it in my 930 Turbo) but what is the suggestion on filter? I ordered a two pack from Amazon that look to be solely paper ribbing on the outside, but I was just sold a Wicks filter that appears as a perforated metal canister. Is this ok to use? I also have a '64 356c original oil system.
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Re: Oil for 356C
Wix are a very good choice of filter but as the stock 356 uses just a bypass filter system I doubt it make a lot of difference what brand of filter you use. The filters that use a composite enclosure are OK to use. Fram has a steel outer and they are by far the worst filters in my opinion I have ever used.
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Re: Oil for 356C
WIX is a good filter. O'Reilly should have them. P/N 51010. They come with a rubber gasket that does a good job sealing the filer cover head. Most other brands use a paper gasket. I have a list of 12 other brands. Let me know if you need any more choices.
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Re: Oil for 356C
I use the VR1 in our '60 356 and my '66 Corvette...I think it's a good choice for these. Our '60 has the original filter system on it too...I just change the oil fairly regularly to help keep any contaminates to a minimum. Have fun!
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Re: Oil for 356C
I always use the open-pleated filter cartridge (Mahle OX-79 D)--never the metal shielded version w/the little scattered holes.
Stoddard has 'em.
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Stoddard has 'em.
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Re: What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
We've used the new Porsche Classic Motor Oil (http://www.porsche.com/international/ac ... oroil-faq/) for the last year, and have been very pleased with it. The old girl (1965 356C) runs well, oil stays cleaner longer, gas mileage up about 5-10%, and it doesn't burn as quickly, so we don't go through it as fast. Oil pressure seems to be maintained at higher ambient/running temperatures.
It's pricey, but worth it to us.
YMMV (literally, in this case),
Elizabeth
It's pricey, but worth it to us.
YMMV (literally, in this case),
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Re: What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
Elizabeth,
That's an impressive list of benefits. What kind of oil were you using before?
Thanks,
Ed
That's an impressive list of benefits. What kind of oil were you using before?
Thanks,
Ed
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Re: What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
just took my 62B to Lufteknic in Richmond and they did oil change using Liqui-Moly 15W-40 Touring High Tech Diesel, anyone used that if so thoughts yes or no? thanks, robb
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Re: What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
Just read this whole topic thread. There are 8 pages of thoughts on every oil you could think of, and some you never heard of.
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Re: What kind of oil should I use / what is the "best" oil?
Anyone else use the new Porsche Classic 20W-50 oil?
I just sent a sample of new Porsche Classic 20W-50 oil into Blackstone Labs to get a baseline. We'll see what they say. I've used Blackstone on my other P cars for a long time and been very satisfied. My discussions with them personally were much more detailed than the cursory comments provided above.
ChuckJ
I just sent a sample of new Porsche Classic 20W-50 oil into Blackstone Labs to get a baseline. We'll see what they say. I've used Blackstone on my other P cars for a long time and been very satisfied. My discussions with them personally were much more detailed than the cursory comments provided above.
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