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Abarth Exhaust thread

#1 Post by Mark Pribanic » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:42 am

I'm a fan of early accessories. The Abarth exhaust is no exception. I"m definitely a noob compared to the majority of the custodians of our 356's.
I wanted to create this thread to discuss original and aftermarket Abarth exhaust's. Please chime in with your comments, observations & experience.

So far I've found 3 models of Abarths:

1) Pre A Early model:
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2) The P1000 - What I've nicknamed the 6 ringer. A later 356 Abarth:

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This is a pic of mine:

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3) The P-912 version:

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#2 Post by Omar Almada » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:01 pm

I have a NOS Abarth P-1000 (pictured in accesories) installed in my 52 coupe 1500 , I just bought an Abarth NLA replica and I will install that one in my 53 cabrio 1500 in the next months I will test both then and post a report.
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#3 Post by Richard Towle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:27 pm

I have seen many of these on the walls in peoples shops and in pictures online. I have never seen one on a car, aside from an old beetle.

Could someone please post a few pics from the rear to show this actually installed on a car?

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Re: Post a pic

#4 Post by Chuck House » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:48 pm

Richard Towle wrote:I have seen many of these on the walls in peoples shops and in pictures online. I have never seen one on a car, aside from an old beetle.

Could someone please post a few pics from the rear to show this actually installed on a car?

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Here is a small shot of my ConvD with a period Abarth.


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#5 Post by Omar Almada » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:05 pm

I just aded a picture to the parts section, dont now how to drag it here.
HELP :(
Actually my Avatar picture shows the muffler installed on my 52, bigger picture is available on pre-a coupes.

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Copy that and past it here and you'll get this...
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#6 Post by Mark Pribanic » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:22 pm

Richard Towle wrote:Could someone please post a few pics from the rear to show this actually installed on a car?

Rich
Rich,
Here's a couple:

Omar's 1952

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My 1958:

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#7 Post by Omar Almada » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:24 pm

Omar Almada wrote:I just aded a picture to the parts section, dont now how to drag it here.
HELP :(
Actually my Avatar picture shows the muffler installed on my 52, bigger picture is available on pre-a coupes.

Moderator Tip: under the photo there is some code like
[albumimg]602 [/albumimg]

Copy that and past it here and you'll get this...
[albumimg]602[/albumimg]
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#8 Post by Phil Planck » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:54 pm

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Here is my 55 coupe while I had the bumpers off for restoration. This Abarth was on a 55 Speedster at one time, but showed little use. I found it in a local body shop under a work bench. I could see it as I drove by one day and the door was open. The owner had sold the Speedster years ago in favor of a replica Speedster with a hopped up VW engine. This muffler would not fithis VW enignine so he sold it too me. I like the sound and equal length pipes.
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#9 Post by Eric Meyer » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:30 pm

heres a low down shot. It is a pretty close fit with an abarth.

make sure... when you are re-painting... to get the little exhaust cut out area on your pre a ... far away enough from the tail pipes... to avoid burning the paint. I suggest test fitting the engine with exhaust and rear bumper before block sanding...if you have done extensive metal work in this area.


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#10 Post by Greg Spreeman » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:11 pm

Who sells Abarths, or at least knockoffs, nowadays?
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#11 Post by Mark Pribanic » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:14 pm

Greg Spreeman wrote:Who sells Abarths, or at least knockoffs, nowadays?

NLA does. Not sure on price or performance...Anyone have any feedback on the NLA version?

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#12 Post by Omar Almada » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:59 pm

I bought one NLA replica for the 53 paid $700US compared to $1700US I paid for the NOS Abarth, By the way I got a nice cut (3cm) on my ankle with the abarth tailpipes one time I was washing the 52.
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#13 Post by John Willhoit » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:48 pm

We tested one of the stainless Abarth repros on the dyno last year. It made slightly more low and midrange torque but lost top end power above 5K compared to a stock exhaust (probably because it has more back pressure).
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#14 Post by Cliff Murray » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:08 pm

John, what did you think of the sound? I guess the top end power would be reduced by the smaller can or do you think it has more baffles/quieter? The tailpipes are small but there are 4 of them.

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#15 Post by John Willhoit » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:47 pm

The sound is great. Based on the HP/Torque curve it's typical of what you get from an exhaust with more back pressure. I'm not sure why there is more back pressure but it's probably not from the small pipes, more likely something in the internals. I would think the exhaust would work fine on a Normal or Super, but probably not on a S90 or SC, especially a big bore with a cam.
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